| # | User | Message | Date |
| 2514 | Pekr | hmm, maybe not, just slides here. I had videos from both devcons on my old pc, which is now sold to my friend and hd formatted, so no luck here ... | 18-Apr-08 4:41 |
| 2513 | Pekr | I might have those videos too ... | 18-Apr-08 4:39 |
| 2512 | BrianH | I use it to keep my downloaded programs updated, by keeping track of where they came from so I know where to look. Qtask could probably use something like this in its files section. | 18-Apr-08 4:11 |
| 2511 | Reichart | Interesting. | 18-Apr-08 4:09 |
| 2510 | BrianH | I don't like it much now, but haven't found anything better yet. | 18-Apr-08 4:05 |
| 2509 | BrianH | Keeps track of referring pages, lets you make file comments, etc. | 18-Apr-08 4:02 |
| 2508 | BrianH | The download manager I used to download the videos, which is very good at managing the downloads after the download is done. | 18-Apr-08 4:01 |
| 2507 | Reichart | What is FlashGet? | 18-Apr-08 4:00 |
| 2506 | BrianH | FlashGet has been my friend. | 18-Apr-08 3:59 |
| 2505 | Reichart | Cool.... | 18-Apr-08 3:58 |
| 2504 | BrianH | I got the source to Carl's slide show script from his blog - don't know whether it's still there. | 18-Apr-08 3:57 |
| 2503 | Josh | THanks! | 18-Apr-08 3:54 |
| 2502 | BrianH | Better yet, the web site I downloaded them from still has them! http://www.sahores-conseil.com/?q=node/2 | 18-Apr-08 3:53 |
| 2501 | BrianH | I think I still have them. | 18-Apr-08 2:48 |
| 2500 | Reichart | I do have them...but let me confirm, does anyone here know of another source? | 18-Apr-08 2:46 |
| 2499 | Josh | Reichart, if you have those videos, I would like to see them | 17-Apr-08 21:47 |
| 2498 | Josh | Yeah, what happened to the devcon site? | 17-Apr-08 19:37 |
| 2497 | Reichart | If no one steps up with them, I have a copy of them all on Qtask... | 1-Feb-08 0:02 |
| 2496 | amacleod | I do not seem to be able to connect to the devcon 2007 site. I want to review a couple of the seminar videos. Any idea where to get them? | 31-Jan-08 22:48 |
| 2495 | Pekr | Does it have REBOL installed as an interpreter, so that you could a bit automate filming, and go out for coffee? :-) | 20-Jun-07 12:15 |
| 2494 | PhilB | Thr Red is supposed to be awsome ..... they talk about it all time on Twim (this week in media). | 20-Jun-07 12:14 |
| 2493 | Henrik | yes, it's a pretty crazy camera. digital cinema photography is finally growing up. | 18-Jun-07 19:42 |
| 2492 | Maxim | my god that camera is a BEAST !!! 12 MPx at 60 fps (60 FULL frames and in 12 bit RAW / per channel ) | 18-Jun-07 19:11 |
| 2491 | Maxim | wow! what a beautifully ogrish piece of tech! | 18-Jun-07 19:05 |
| 2490 | Henrik | :-) | 18-Jun-07 19:03 |
| 2489 | Henrik | maxim, here's a good camera to use: http://www.red.com/ | 18-Jun-07 19:03 |
| 2488 | Maxim | next devcon I will take care of the video. I will bring a real recorder (or rent one wherever we are) and bring a tripod, even make a few lighting tests beforehand. my labtop has firewire input so we will be able to grab and release feeds within the hour (or two ;-). | 18-Jun-07 19:02 |
| 2487 | Henrik | I enjoy listening to Macbreak. A bunch of mac nuts get together and talk (sometimes) about mac and apple in general, but if it weren't for the lighthearted mood and humor, I wouldn't be listening to it. Perhaps a bunch of rebol nuts could get together like this and exchange ideas and talk gripes and goodies for rebol, about what you do with rebol and how it fits into your daily life. | 18-Jun-07 18:51 |
| 2486 | Henrik | reichart, the way you talked seemed very appropriate for a podcast | 18-Jun-07 18:48 |
| 2485 | ? | We need to get our act together for future conf to record evrything well. | 18-Jun-07 18:35 |
| 2484 | ? | My video is there and works, I DLed it and played it. I'm currently UL it to Qtask so we have it for ever. The quality though is REALLY bad, and I talk too fast. | 18-Jun-07 18:34 |
| 2483 | ? | I'm still looking into it. | 18-Jun-07 17:56 |
| 2482 | Alan | BrianH, there is a problem with that file as Reichart can verify | 18-Jun-07 17:47 |
| 2481 | BrianH | I grabbed them with a download manager, except for Reichart's which 404s. | 18-Jun-07 4:31 |
| 2480 | Anton | You redefined 'in | 17-Jun-07 14:14 |
| 2479 | Cyphre | (don't know why but I'm getting some strange error when not set the ports to none under REBOL/View 2.7.5.3.1 16-May-2007, otherwise with setting to none it works ok) | 16-Jun-07 23:59 |
| 2478 | Cyphre | foreach file [ %01_opening1.mov %02_opening2.mov %03_carl1_1.mov %04_Carl1_2.mov %05_Francois.mov %06_Maxim1.mov %07_Carl2.mov %08_Ladislav.mov %09_Sunanda.mov %10_Carl3.mov %11_Reichart.mov %12_Maxim2.mov %13_Ron.mov %14_Nicolas.mov %15_Concluding.mov ] [ if error? try [ in: open/direct/binary join http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr:81/R7/ file out: open/new/direct/binary/write file len: to-integer (to-integer in/locals/headers/content-length) / 1024 siz: 0 chunk: 4096 print "" while [data: copy/part in chunk][ siz: siz + length? data print ["^(1B)[Awriting file:" file to-integer siz / 1024 "KB of" len "KB..." ] insert tail out data ] close in close out in: out: none ][ print ["ERROR during transfer of" join http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr:81/R7/ file] ] ] | 16-Jun-07 23:57 |
| 2477 | Cyphre | this is a version with partial download: | 16-Jun-07 23:57 |
| 2476 | DideC | . | 14-Jun-07 20:40 |
| 2475 | Gabriele | 90% of the time i just use MPlayer. the remaining 10% VLC. | 14-Jun-07 19:34 |
| 2474 | ? | Yeah, that is the one my seemed to hang on too. | 14-Jun-07 19:14 |
| 2473 | Alan | what is up with the Reichart.mov ? only 3k I have qt pro so can convert to what ever format ppl want if needed | 14-Jun-07 18:39 |
| 2472 | eFishAnt | Always good to get a fix on rebolutionary ideas even if it's just once a year. I am thinking that it is not possible to OD (overdose) on innovative ideas. In the future it would be nice to "Jack In" (Johnny Mnumonic movie) the technology dose. Maybe an earpiece and an eyepiece? | 14-Jun-07 13:14 |
| 2471 | ? | True : ) | 14-Jun-07 12:52 |
| 2470 | Pekr | ? | 14-Jun-07 12:08 |
| 2469 | Pekr | well, otoh, why should I look for the script - you can download via browser manually, no? there is not so many videos anyway ... | 14-Jun-07 12:08 |
| 2468 | Pekr | hmm, wait a minute, Reichart .... | 14-Jun-07 12:08 |
| 2467 | ? | I can't get all the movies due to my memoru limit ( on this computer). | 14-Jun-07 12:07 |
| 2466 | Rebolek | Pekr: I use quicktime alternative, works very well in MPC. Quicktime is one of the most terrible things I've ever seen. As terrible as Acrobat Reader. | 14-Jun-07 12:07 |
| 2465 | Pekr | I will report back | 14-Jun-07 11:45 |
| 2464 | Pekr | I will also check by Gspot application - it should reveal what is missing in the processing chain .... imo it is some video filter, as sound runs ok ... | 14-Jun-07 11:45 |
| 2463 | Pekr | on Windows I use ffdshow (really best imo) and I will try one suggested splitter (from Matroska), which might resolve the issue. Then I will try VLC, or look for QuickTime update, but I have version 7 already and I don't want to go for Pro version ... | 14-Jun-07 11:44 |
| 2462 | Pekr | It lead me to read one evening about codecs, splitters, filters, etc etc., so it was quite educating ... | 14-Jun-07 11:42 |
| 2461 | Pekr | I will try .... | 14-Jun-07 11:42 |
| 2460 | Henrik | pekr, perhaps VLC will work? | 14-Jun-07 11:41 |
| 2459 | Pekr | those damned apple formats/tools/systems :-) | 14-Jun-07 11:28 |
| 2458 | Pekr | it does not run in my quick-time :-) Probably needs some filter for H.264? Sound runs though ... | 14-Jun-07 11:28 |
| 2457 | Anton | Thanks DideC ! | 14-Jun-07 11:26 |
| 2456 | Anton | Goody! | 14-Jun-07 11:26 |
| 2455 | Graham | and yeksoon blogged about it 10th Sept 2006 | 14-Jun-07 7:59 |
| 2454 | Geomol | Found a link on REBOLWeek: http://anton.wildit.net.au/ His batch-download is here: http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/util/batch-download.r | 14-Jun-07 7:54 |
| 2453 | Geomol | Where is Anton's homepage? | 14-Jun-07 7:51 |
| 2452 | Pekr | it uses partial downloads and even if it fails, it starts from that place and continues .... not sure where I have it. But someoneš mentioned Anton did some batch downloader? | 14-Jun-07 7:29 |
| 2451 | Pekr | there is somewhere my script called download-it!.r or so ... | 14-Jun-07 7:28 |
| 2450 | Pekr | :-) | 14-Jun-07 7:28 |
| 2449 | ? | ** Script Error: Not enough memory ** Near: write/binary file read/binary join http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr:81/R7/ >> | 14-Jun-07 7:22 |
| 2448 | Maxim | cool, so my ass will be immortalised ;-) | 14-Jun-07 5:58 |
| 2447 | ? | Thanks for the script. My plan is to upload these to Qtask as well, so we always have them in the future. | 14-Jun-07 5:57 |
| 2446 | Graham | just kidding ..if you tried the above on dialup ... it would not be a wonderful experience :) | 14-Jun-07 5:29 |
| 2445 | Ashley | No, why? | 14-Jun-07 4:32 |
| 2444 | Graham | Ashley, are you still on dialup ? | 14-Jun-07 2:38 |
| 2443 | Graham | Use Anton's batch downloader for this ... | 14-Jun-07 2:38 |
| 2442 | Graham | yeah right! | 14-Jun-07 2:37 |
| 2441 | Ashley | foreach file [ %01_opening1.mov %02_opening2.mov %03_carl1_1.mov %04_Carl1_2.mov %05_Francois.mov %06_Maxim1.mov %07_Carl2.mov %08_Ladislav.mov %09_Sunanda.mov %10_Carl3.mov %11_Reichart.mov %12_Maxim2.mov %13_Ron.mov %14_Nicolas.mov %15_Concluding.mov ] [write/binary file read/binary join http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr:81/R7/ file] | 13-Jun-07 23:34 |
| 2440 | eFishAnt | Wow, thanks so much Dider, glad you came back from lunch! ;-) | 13-Jun-07 20:29 |
| 2439 | DideC | http://devcon2007.rebdocproj.org/ | 13-Jun-07 18:22 |
| 2438 | DideC | Downloadable videos are available now. Enjoy !!! | 13-Jun-07 18:22 |
| 2437 | ? | They are still at lunch... | 7-Jun-07 21:40 |
| 2436 | Alan | still no link for the videos for the devcon ? | 7-Jun-07 17:17 |
| 2435 | Gabriele | we should probably resurrect the scripts on rebol.net. | 1-Jun-07 20:18 |
| 2434 | Maxim | (I mean photographs) | 1-Jun-07 20:16 |
| 2433 | Maxim | anyone posted their images of the devcon 2007 online? | 1-Jun-07 20:15 |
| 2432 | Henrik | there | 31-May-07 8:53 |
| 2431 | Sunanda | Anyone a member of Amigaworld? Could you update this thread so it doesn't end on such a downbeat note? http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3699 Last post, pre-DevCon, says <<Unfortunately, server that is hosting the REBOL devcon site has been changed and is experiencing some trouble.>> | 31-May-07 7:53 |
| 2430 | ? | Cool.... | 30-May-07 17:55 |
| 2429 | Anton | Merci DideC, looking forward to it. | 30-May-07 12:19 |
| 2428 | Graham | Thanks | 30-May-07 10:56 |
| 2427 | DideC | I'm on the task. I wait for a link from François to upload them to Qtask. It will probably take days to do it, so be patient. | 30-May-07 10:48 |
| 2426 | Terry | (oops.. now we'll never see the vids) | 29-May-07 22:03 |
| 2425 | Terry | War with the French? :) | 29-May-07 21:52 |
| 2424 | btiffin | LOL! Reichart...oh so random... | 29-May-07 21:12 |
| 2423 | ? | War? | 29-May-07 20:39 |
| 2422 | Anton | I haven't had a reply yet from my email. Maybe another avenue should be tried... | 29-May-07 12:10 |
| 2421 | Gabriele | nope, i don't have the 2007 ones, actually i wanted to dowload them to archive together with the 2004 and 2005 ones... i did rtsp + http back in 2004, so it's not only possible but quite easy. | 29-May-07 5:49 |
| 2420 | ? | I think not, rather someone in France. | 29-May-07 5:02 |
| 2419 | Maarten | Gabriele? | 29-May-07 4:52 |
| 2418 | ? | We just need the people who have teh orignal videos to upload them directly. Who is that person? | 28-May-07 23:28 |
| 2417 | Mario | The on demand broadcast seems not dumpable as with the ultraverbose vlc -vvv rtsp://195.220.133.26:80/iStream/01_opening1.mov I can see the video and see the "SETUP <url>/trackID=4" and PLAY RTSP commands while, with the dump parameters: vlc rtsp://195.220.133.26:80/iStream/01_opening1.mov :demux=dump :demuxdump-file="01_opening1.mov" the SETUP and PLAY don't work (actually they are not even tried) and I get VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus [00000288] main input error: no suitable access module for `rtsp://195.220.133.26:80/iStream/01_opening1.mov' [00000279] main playlist: nothing to play I also tried some vlc scripting but with no success | 28-May-07 11:38 |
| 2416 | Anton | I sent a mail to sc@sahores-conseil.com asking for direct access to the DevCon videos. | 26-May-07 6:38 |
| 2415 | ? | I will move Qtask questions/answers to !Qtask... | 23-May-07 17:47 |
| 2414 | btiffin | Reichart; Does that mean I can export a Qtask "REBOL look busy" calendar? | 23-May-07 17:33 |
| 2413 | Anton | (François Jouen and Pierre Sahores) | 23-May-07 17:33 |
| 2412 | Anton | So I can't request the files from them that way. | 23-May-07 17:32 |
| 2411 | Anton | Cool. I tried, but there seems no way to add myself to the sahores-conseil website. | 23-May-07 17:32 |
| 2410 | ? | I made a task on Qtask Rebol Devcon for Didier. They can upload them all to Qtask. Qtask has syndication of Qwikis and Files coming today (in fact). So Qtask can now host public files. | 23-May-07 17:30 |
| 2409 | ? | Yeah, that is what we need, another challenge... | 23-May-07 17:24 |
| 2408 | Will | me | 23-May-07 17:24 |
| 2407 | Anton | Umm.. anyone speak French ? :) | 23-May-07 17:24 |
| 2406 | Anton | The French team have obviously handed down a tech challenge, which we can't resist., | 23-May-07 17:23 |
| 2405 | Will | yea then I could dl and batch convert to multiple formats if needed, at least could try to.. 8-) | 23-May-07 17:19 |
| 2404 | ? | Why don't we just get teh French team to hand over the original files!?! | 23-May-07 17:18 |
| 2403 | Will | I'm not sure there is a way to save the udp stream, they shuld enable tcp/http so we can dowload and save, then maybe transcode to a more friendly format | 23-May-07 17:17 |
| 2402 | Anton | We're trying to ! :) | 23-May-07 17:16 |
| 2401 | ? | Can we just move them all to Rebol.org (for example)?
Throw them on a page in a simple clean table [Date and time of talk | Name of speaker | subject | link to movie ] | 23-May-07 17:15 |
| 2400 | Anton | Therefore I shouldn't have to do anything to my router, right ? | 23-May-07 17:10 |
| 2399 | Anton | hang on... I can stream the video in Firefox QuickTime plugin. | 23-May-07 17:09 |
| 2398 | Will | from page 29 http://images.apple.com/server/pdfs/QT_Streaming_Server.pdf | 23-May-07 17:06 |
| 2397 | Will | Some client computers located on networks that use address translation may also be unable to receive UDP packets, but they can receive media thatÕs streamed over HTTP connections | 23-May-07 17:05 |
| 2396 | Will | http://www.apple.com/quicktime/streamingserver/specs.html | 23-May-07 17:02 |
| 2395 | Will | the darwin streaming server can be configured to stream rtsp on tcp I think | 23-May-07 17:00 |
| 2394 | Anton | Oh, maybe I can open UDP on my router... | 23-May-07 16:56 |
| 2393 | Gabriele | mplayer allows me to force tcp... but i get only audio. it would still be much easier to just have a simple http download link... KISS | 23-May-07 16:54 |
| 2392 | Gabriele | it seems like the problem is that RTSP wants to send me UDP packets... but i'm under nat. | 23-May-07 16:52 |
| 2391 | Gabriele | the http link seems to redirect to the rtsp one (at least VLC reports that) | 23-May-07 16:41 |
| 2390 | Gabriele | linux | 23-May-07 16:40 |
| 2389 | Will | and you are on window right? | 23-May-07 16:39 |
| 2388 | Will | maybe there is a problem with that | 23-May-07 16:38 |
| 2387 | Will | SRC="http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov" | 23-May-07 16:38 |
| 2386 | Will | the embed tag has: | 23-May-07 16:38 |
| 2385 | Will | <param name="src" value="sample.mov"> <param name="qtsrc" value="rtsp://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov"> | 23-May-07 16:38 |
| 2384 | Will | the object tag has: | 23-May-07 16:37 |
| 2383 | Will | http://ead.ephe.sorbonne.fr/iStream/04_Carl1_2.mov | 23-May-07 16:37 |
| 2382 | Will | does this work for you? | 23-May-07 16:37 |
| 2381 | Gabriele | (why can't this be a simple http download?) | 23-May-07 16:26 |
| 2380 | Gabriele | does not work for me using either vlc or mplayer | 23-May-07 16:23 |
| 2379 | Will | OHH and at a great high quality 8-))) | 23-May-07 16:13 |
| 2378 | Will | GREAT GREAT!! thanks a lot to all that contributed 8-)) | 23-May-07 16:13 |
| 2377 | Anton | Thanks Henrik. | 23-May-07 14:46 |
| 2376 | Henrik | http://www.sahores-conseil.com/?q=node/2 | 23-May-07 12:08 |
| 2375 | Henrik | Videos are online: | 23-May-07 12:08 |
| 2374 | Anton | That's just one application of the idea. | 21-May-07 10:59 |
| 2373 | Pekr | you have "fat" client, which can interpret it. The question is, once you render your window, is layout still valid? | 21-May-07 10:56 |
| 2372 | Pekr | just why send it as an image? it should be sent as VID - SAP does it too - that is their advantage in comparison to other ERPs, as they do it like VID. | 21-May-07 10:56 |
| 2371 | Anton | and the new event datatype will be good for this too. | 21-May-07 10:54 |
| 2370 | Anton | virtual windows - rendering graphics into an image means that a stream of images can be sent over a network to another user in a "terminal services"-like session. | 21-May-07 10:54 |
| 2369 | Oldes | with R3 it should be possible to make own windowing system... but still don't know how to make it secure.... I mean if module can expand into global, what if I don't want loaded modules to do that (I mean if I for example want to open foreign script in virtual window)... anyway... I think the case with rendering into image is described scenario of current: DRAW image commands | 21-May-07 10:49 |
| 2368 | Pekr | also - virtual windows - rendering graphics into image .... does it mean we get native VID windowing? (would be usefull for browser-plugin, because in other case we have to limit amout of OS level windows opened, whereas with rebol windows (vid style), noone would mind, as nothing would pop-up ... | 21-May-07 9:47 |
| 2367 | Pekr | I would like to ask, re. posted slides - why is rebin a problem and hence is deferred? | 21-May-07 9:46 |
| 2366 | Henrik | now I'm beginning to wonder whether REBOL could be useful under XNA on the XBox 360. | 21-May-07 9:41 |
| 2365 | Henrik | hmm... so much new stuff. feels like I have to learn rebol all over again. :-) | 21-May-07 9:39 |
| 2364 | btiffin | Its seems to be a small url hiccup in the blog. http://devcon2007.rebdocproj.org/news.html is the real link. | 21-May-07 4:58 |
| 2363 | Terry | The requested URL /article/devcon2007.rebdocproj.org/news.html" was not found on this server. | 21-May-07 4:49 |
| 2362 | btiffin | Carl posted his presentation | 21-May-07 1:07 |
| 2361 | Gabriele | rewrite, async (R3 devices are async just like amiga devices) | 20-May-07 16:59 |
| 2360 | Volker | With task available that should make no big difference? | 20-May-07 14:36 |
| 2359 | Pekr | wasn't is said, that new kernel is async, but http initial release will be sync only? | 20-May-07 13:08 |
| 2358 | Graham | Async ? | 20-May-07 11:17 |
| 2357 | Graham | Is this a rewrite, or tweaking of the existing protocols? | 20-May-07 11:17 |
| 2356 | Graham | http takes a day or two ? | 20-May-07 11:17 |
| 2355 | Gabriele | so it should be... a few lines and you have a fully functional user interface, for all the common cases. | 20-May-07 10:08 |
| 2354 | Gabriele | my first goal is....... i don't want to spend time writing guis for simple apps. | 20-May-07 10:07 |
| 2353 | Gabriele | as much as possible. | 20-May-07 10:07 |
| 2352 | Henrik | (when VID is complete, that is) | 20-May-07 10:05 |
| 2351 | Henrik | Gabriele, how comprehensive do you plan to make VID out of the box this time? | 20-May-07 10:05 |
| 2350 | Gabriele | we plan to have full graphics with rich text by july, with vid (at least the basics) | 20-May-07 10:04 |
| 2349 | Gabriele | rebin may be delayed after july... but it depends on the time carl will have during june | 20-May-07 10:03 |
| 2348 | Gabriele | rif (ladislav may be able to finish it for july), os part of unicode (community can help a lot here) | 20-May-07 10:02 |
| 2347 | Pekr | So, what is missing in R3? I remember something from conference, but not much - RIF, Unicode, rebin ...? | 20-May-07 10:01 |
| 2346 | Pekr | cool. | 20-May-07 10:00 |
| 2345 | Gabriele | petr: that's something the "wrapper" should do. grab some windows expert and you'll have a solution - you won't need rt to do builds for you anymore ;) | 20-May-07 9:59 |
| 2344 | Gabriele | well... i want to do keep-alive etc. but that's part of the design issues to discuss | 20-May-07 9:58 |
| 2343 | Pekr | hopefully proxy will be automatically detected on Windows :-) | 20-May-07 9:58 |
| 2342 | Oldes | http1.1? | 20-May-07 9:58 |
| 2341 | Gabriele | but there are many issues to discuss and documents to write... | 20-May-07 9:58 |
| 2340 | Gabriele | we need just http for june 1st and that should take a day or two | 20-May-07 9:57 |
| 2339 | Gabriele | it's being developed next week ;) the native part is done and Carl does that. | 20-May-07 9:56 |
| 2338 | Pekr | hmm, so how is networking being developed, if you have not touched it yet? :-) | 20-May-07 9:56 |
| 2337 | Gabriele | networkind and vid, yes. | 20-May-07 9:55 |
| 2336 | Gabriele | i'm in the dev team... that's why i get it before june 1st ;) | 20-May-07 9:55 |
| 2335 | Pekr | are you in charge of networking? VID? | 20-May-07 9:55 |
| 2334 | Oldes | maybe I could try it again;-] | 20-May-07 9:55 |
| 2333 | Pekr | Gabriele - so what actually is your role with RT? I thought you are in "selected" dev team already? | 20-May-07 9:55 |
| 2332 | Pekr | Cyphre is solid, he would not disclose it to us, even if friends :-) | 20-May-07 9:54 |
| 2331 | Gabriele | petr, i'll get my copy in a couple days........ richard is the only one on the planet except carl having a copy (oops, should not have said that ;) | 20-May-07 9:53 |
| 2330 | Pekr | Gabriele - from your pov ... is it usable? You know, when 2.0 "project Contra" was released, it was more than fine and stable ... :-) | 20-May-07 9:53 |
| 2329 | Gabriele | yes, july 15 is public | 20-May-07 9:52 |
| 2328 | Pekr | btw - what is the plan for initial release? will it be released only to some selected developers initially, and July, 15, to the public? | 20-May-07 9:52 |
| 2327 | Gabriele | stated release date for "select developers" is june 1st | 20-May-07 9:52 |
| 2326 | Oldes | if the "little" is not too relative | 20-May-07 9:51 |
| 2325 | Pekr | yeeeeessss! :-) | 20-May-07 9:51 |
| 2324 | Oldes | yes...yes:] | 20-May-07 9:50 |
| 2323 | Gabriele | we have 2.7.6 almost ready... and R3 will be in alpha in a little more than a week | 20-May-07 9:48 |
| 2322 | Gabriele | :-) | 20-May-07 9:46 |
| 2321 | Pekr | chasing bobcat? :-) | 20-May-07 9:42 |
| 2320 | Gabriele | i have asked Carl too - he's just been busy with other things. | 20-May-07 9:38 |
| 2319 | Henrik | (touché) :-) | 19-May-07 18:32 |
| 2318 | ? | He is working on it... Anyone know when the DevCon guys are going to post the sessions? | 19-May-07 18:24 |
| 2317 | Pekr | Please, could someone closer to RT ask Carl to post his slides? It is one week from conference already .... | 19-May-07 17:50 |
| 2316 | Rebolek | Wait 'till July. Slides will be hopfully available sooner :) | 18-May-07 8:49 |
| 2315 | Oldes | I want to see R3 rather than slides | 18-May-07 8:45 |
| 2314 | Pekr | no, and I worry Carl went for other priorities already and we will not see the slides :-) | 18-May-07 8:41 |
| 2313 | Maarten | Has anybody found the slides/videos online? | 18-May-07 7:18 |
| 2312 | Mchean | Yes what have we learned? | 15-May-07 17:06 |
| 2311 | ? | I would really like to see all the other other talks. | 13-May-07 18:57 |
| 2310 | ? | Cool, then we just need to push getting those streems online (hopefully edited to just teh actual talks) ASAP | 13-May-07 18:57 |
| 2309 | Ladislav | anyway, I will update the include.html file soon for you to have the information available | 13-May-07 18:04 |
| 2308 | Henrik | I saw the isight on day one, attached to a macbook pro, sitting about half a meter to the left of the webcam. | 13-May-07 16:57 |
| 2307 | PhilB | somebodydaid there was an iSight (apple) camera next to the stream camera. | 13-May-07 16:57 |
| 2306 | ? | So, was the whole thing recorded, unrelated to the streams? In other words, did someone have a DigitalVideoCamera recording everything? | 13-May-07 16:55 |
| 2305 | Henrik | ladislav, sorry to hear that. it was a bit difficult to make out what you said, and it didn't help that the camera hardly ever pointed at the screen. | 13-May-07 16:46 |
| 2304 | Ladislav | ...where the attached keyboard was the worst possible according to french people - half Apple, half Windows layout | 13-May-07 16:30 |
| 2303 | Ladislav | I trained with another computer where I was able to switch the keyboard layout to English as opposed to the small tablet-like device | 13-May-07 16:29 |
| 2302 | Ladislav | sorry for the technical difficulties during my speech | 13-May-07 16:28 |
| 2301 | Ladislav | back from the Devcon | 13-May-07 16:28 |
| 2300 | Ladislav | Hello everybody | 13-May-07 16:27 |
| 2299 | eFishAnt | I started a checklist here for people to put their favorite highlights from Devcon into it (maybe useful in the future for ideas, and also a way for people to learn more) | 13-May-07 15:54 |
| 2298 | Rebolek | Graham I wanted to write something, but I'm not sure when I'll get some time to do it. | 13-May-07 12:29 |
| 2297 | Graham | No takers?? | 13-May-07 9:08 |
| 2296 | Graham | Is there anyone who went to devcon 2007 who wishes to write a report on the conference? If so, we can publish on the rebolweek blog | 13-May-07 7:55 |
| 2295 | Rebolek | But it's pretty fun thing to do :)) | 13-May-07 7:49 |
| 2294 | Rebolek | Probably I'm not. Sound synthesis in Rebol is really not the straightest way to become millionare :) | 13-May-07 7:45 |
| 2293 | Terry | Montreal is a great city | 13-May-07 6:24 |
| 2292 | Jean-François | How about Montreal, It would be "half way" for all those in the northern hemisphere... | 13-May-07 6:05 |
| 2291 | btiffin | One kidney and a piece of liver at most :) | 13-May-07 2:07 |
| 2290 | ? | You're not using Rebol correctly if you have sell a liver... : ) | 13-May-07 2:05 |
| 2289 | Rebolek | Hi, back from DevCon. It was AMAZING! Re: next DevCon location, there was a push from the so-called 'czech connection' for next DevCon to be in CZ, but Maui is really nice idea. But I have to sell both my liver and kidney to get there, so I'll wait for some closer location in following years :) | 13-May-07 0:35 |
| 2288 | ? | <rusty-keyboard> | 12-May-07 20:00 |
| 2287 | ? | Im realy proud actualy to see Rebol grow the way it has (sounds silly but it is), there are susch a load of people doing so many intesting things with Rebol its realy refreshing to see the time and science they put it their projects..fantastic... | 12-May-07 19:59 |
| 2286 | ? | But i prefer the holiday in Maui ;-) | 12-May-07 19:54 |
| 2285 | ? | Yep if its Amsterdam then www.rebol.nl is for use ;-) | 12-May-07 19:53 |
| 2284 | Maarten | I like the concept of the "World Domination Tour" (WDT). | 12-May-07 18:34 |
| 2283 | Pekr | if DevCon would be in Europe, I vote for Amsterodam - 1) Maarten could help with organisation 2) I listen to two Dutch bands 3) you can legally smoke marijuana there - that would be cool beginning of innovative ideas to devcon - to smoke Carl and talk about Rebol possibilities ;-) | 12-May-07 17:07 |
| 2282 | Pekr | cool Dolphines :-) | 12-May-07 17:05 |
| 2281 | Anton | That's pretty cool :-) | 12-May-07 16:15 |
| 2280 | Kaj | She snorkled out too far into the ocean, and was brought back by two dolphins. Apparently a common occurrence there | 12-May-07 16:12 |
| 2279 | Gregg | It sounds like we need to start a schedule for DevCons. :-) | 12-May-07 15:50 |
| 2278 | Gregg | Saved by dolphins? | 12-May-07 15:50 |
| 2277 | Kaj | No argument here. My mother was saved by dolphins in Hawaii last month | 12-May-07 15:44 |
| 2276 | ? | Of note, I don't push hard for Maui because I live here, I push because I have traveled around the world, and I think YOU GUYS would have the most fun, do the most "different things" and collectively have a more rich experience. Since Maui is a place of the sun…we would play in the day partially, and do the DevCon in the afternoon and evenings. Everything would be done differently…it would be very cool. Swim with turtles and dolphins and perhaps whales in the morning, learn about comparative languages and new programming tricks in the afternoon. Eat the freshest fish you will every have for dinner, then enjoy a lecture outside in the warm air with the sky completely filled with stars you did not know were even there! | 12-May-07 15:17 |
| 2275 | ? | Robert, fly to LA, stay at my LA place...enjoy LA, then fly to Maui (5 hours). I tend to fly out in the morning, and arrive by noon in Maui. | 12-May-07 15:12 |
| 2274 | eFishAnt | I can't wait until I have time to watch every single Devcon video and absorb what all was presented. Italy was fantastic last year. One dose lasts me for a whole year. | 12-May-07 14:50 |
| 2273 | Geomol | http://www.copenhagen.com | 12-May-07 14:49 |
| 2272 | eFishAnt | Arran, also a choice spot (seriously). How could I have left it out? (And while we're at it, let's give Ireland back to the Irish!) | 12-May-07 14:49 |
| 2271 | Kaj | Geography is like a fractal. Even if Americans would make an effort to know about it, there would be no hope zooming in | 12-May-07 14:49 |
| 2270 | Kaj | It was elected as such in Sweden, on historical grounds :-) | 12-May-07 14:47 |
| 2269 | eFishAnt | I thought Americans were bad with geography. | 12-May-07 14:47 |
| 2268 | Kaj | My Danish friend told me so | 12-May-07 14:47 |
| 2267 | Geomol | LOL | 12-May-07 14:47 |
| 2266 | eFishAnt | I thought it was in Denmark....;- | 12-May-07 14:46 |
| 2265 | Chris | Hmm, how about Arran? Do you really want to trust a DevCon to the English? :P | 12-May-07 14:46 |
| 2264 | Kaj | I just heard that Copenhagen was named the most boring city of Sweden :-) | 12-May-07 14:45 |
| 2263 | eFishAnt | We all need an injection of new technology every once in a while, so we don't otherwise go into withdrawal. | 12-May-07 14:40 |
| 2262 | eFishAnt | Copenhagen! very awesome...I would love that. | 12-May-07 14:38 |
| 2261 | eFishAnt | It's a joy to see how great these Devcons are getting. Such a great community in REBOL. We could call these the REBOL world domination tours. | 12-May-07 14:38 |
| 2260 | Geomol | Copenhagen! Anyone? :-) | 12-May-07 14:37 |
| 2259 | Kaj | Well, England anyway | 12-May-07 14:35 |
| 2258 | Kaj | Have to practise: I should be in London next year | 12-May-07 14:35 |
| 2257 | Kaj | Thanks :-) | 12-May-07 14:34 |
| 2256 | eFishAnt | good comeback for a foreigner...;-) | 12-May-07 14:31 |
| 2255 | Kaj | Maui hot, London cool ;-) | 12-May-07 14:28 |
| 2254 | eFishAnt | my 2 cents worth | 12-May-07 14:13 |
| 2253 | eFishAnt | London would also be cool | 12-May-07 14:13 |
| 2252 | eFishAnt | (Australia) | 12-May-07 13:59 |
| 2251 | eFishAnt | My vote is Sydney or Brisbane (Sydney easiest for air connections) due to the diversity of things to do there during the conference. And maybe next year my project load won't be so heavy and rushed. | 12-May-07 13:59 |
| 2250 | Ashley | Got my vote for Maui, off-peak airfare would be nice but is not essential. Yes as a tax write-off. | 12-May-07 13:02 |
| 2249 | Robert | Tax: Not if I stay two weeks ;-) But anyway... my tax accounting consultant should know a good trick. And how long is the flight? From Frankfurt to San Francisco it's 11h. And than another 6h? | 12-May-07 11:33 |
| 2248 | ? | Yes, not cheap to do it in Maui.......................but still worth considering. Paris is fun.................Maui is.............Amazing........... | 12-May-07 11:09 |
| 2247 | Pekr | whole Paris devcon would cost me half that price, if I would go ... | 12-May-07 10:21 |
| 2246 | Pekr | I just looked at flight prices and it is like 1000 Euro just to get there :-( | 12-May-07 10:21 |
| 2245 | ? | In Germany, do you have a tax advantage (a write off) for travel expenses for such things as confrences? | 12-May-07 10:10 |
| 2244 | Robert | If, I will add a holiday. Hence it really requires a long pre-planning phase. | 12-May-07 9:56 |
| 2243 | ? | Well, if we can actually get enough interest in Maui, then I will get real about when is the best time. Prob, plan it for when prices are cheapest for everyone. | 12-May-07 8:51 |
| 2242 | btiffin | Pekr; At this stage of the game, I doubt anyone wants to risk losing corporate involvement. So I'll add a ditto, me too. | 12-May-07 6:05 |
| 2241 | Pekr | I hope open source part is not GPL! | 12-May-07 5:26 |
| 2240 | DaveC | Brock: Many thanks for the info. I'll have a look at that if it's available. I would like to use something similar myself. | 12-May-07 5:20 |
| 2239 | Chris | Reichart: you have me sold -- when is 'DevCon '08: Maui'? | 12-May-07 3:36 |
| 2238 | Terry | Have we learned what the licensing structure will be? The current license has been a roadblock to Rebol promotion/acceptance.. is this still the case? | 11-May-07 21:57 |
| 2237 | Terry | So... what have we learned for R3? - unlimited words Good enough for me. | 11-May-07 21:38 |
| 2236 | Terry | "The future is here, it's just unevenly distributed among pithy sci-fi authors" | 11-May-07 21:12 |
| 2235 | Henrik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc <--- I hope we will be equally enthustiastic at the next devcon | 11-May-07 21:00 |
| 2234 | Pekr | yes ;-) | 11-May-07 20:38 |
| 2233 | Henrik | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2007/04/ichat_theaterscreenshot.jpg <-- like this? :-) | 11-May-07 20:32 |
| 2232 | Pekr | Maybe we would need two beamers - e.g. how Reichart presented his stuff. On one screen you could see face of presenter right corner, and slides, the second one could be used for live demo or something like that :-) | 11-May-07 20:30 |
| 2231 | Henrik | but we have to hurry: MacOSX Leopard's iChat is going to have precisely that feature :-) | 11-May-07 20:29 |
| 2230 | Pekr | Henrik - good idea ... | 11-May-07 20:29 |
| 2229 | Pekr | The trouble is, that sessions are not always like that - sometimes you simply show code, live demo etc., so that part cold be troublesome. Still better than nonthing .... | 11-May-07 20:28 |
| 2228 | Henrik | pekr, to supplement your idea, it could go outside and in as well, presenting your stuff on the big screen from home | 11-May-07 20:28 |
| 2227 | Pekr | I can imagine complete cute app for DevCons. Not video and sound till Rebol 3 and proper plug-ins, but imagine this - kind of server (Cheyenne), accepting outer connections. Each presenter would have to send his slides to conference organisers, who would put it into structure - Schedule, with time slots. I know that schedules are missed, or skipped, but once connected, you could see what session is actually broadcasted, you could see progress bar of the estimated time left till the end of the session, and as presenter would go via slides, it would be "broadcasted" to outer world ... | 11-May-07 20:27 |
| 2226 | Henrik | oops, its http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/old/clock.zip | 11-May-07 20:24 |
| 2225 | Henrik | normally you'd have the timer on your laptop display and not on the presentation | 11-May-07 20:24 |
| 2224 | Henrik | yes, an inverted progress bar is more subtle | 11-May-07 20:23 |
| 2223 | Brock | I thought you were responsible for that. Seems Carl modified the idea for the new show.r | 11-May-07 20:23 |
| 2222 | Henrik | http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/clock.zip | 11-May-07 20:22 |
| 2221 | Brock | I didn't find it on Rebol.org. You'd think it would either be there or atleast accessible from the View desktop, in Tools, but it's not. | 11-May-07 20:22 |
| 2220 | Henrik | yes, I'm sorry about that clock. I was not aware of the dimensions the clock was supposed to have :-) | 11-May-07 20:21 |
| 2219 | Brock | DaveC: For devcon 2005 Carl had a script called... show.r. The script he was using this time seems to be slightly different from the last Devcon as the last devcon the show.r had a clock displaying the time remaining using a very fancy clock. | 11-May-07 20:15 |
| 2218 | Pekr | well, for few days, at least ... untill Carl is back - then it is time to bug him to post DevCon slides somewhere :-) | 11-May-07 19:38 |
| 2217 | Pekr | hehe, by the lack of new info about R3 from the DevCon (due to my insufficient ability to follow spoken English, as well as due to no slides released), I wen to http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/r3blog.r?index=0 and re-read most of the blogs and its comments, and now I feel that so much was said already about R3, that I feel satisifed :-) | 11-May-07 19:37 |
| 2216 | Christophe | I will ask RT to host the site archive and the videos. My host at rebdocproj.org does not allow too much HD space.... | 11-May-07 18:33 |
| 2215 | Christophe | Do you have any feedback about the web site ? I will publish it on QTask, for the future generations... | 11-May-07 18:31 |