Comments on: Status: RebDev setup, provisioning

Carl Sassenrath, CTO
REBOL Technologies
30-Dec-2008 18:28 GMT

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With the RebDev (DevBase messenger) prototype now running with the main features (which I will document for you soon), it is time to "provision" it with initial headings.

I should note that headings of any level can be added at any time, but if we figure them out in advance, it helps prevent things from becoming chaotic.

For example, at the top level, we'll want something like this:

Users   - private user messages
General - general chat (main lobby)
RT      - general REBOL Tech related area
R2      - 2.* discussions
R3      - 3.* discussions

Then, under R3, we'd add natives, mezzanine, protocols, etc.

I should note that RebDev allows tagging, so there's no longer any need for headings like "Ask Carl" because those can just be tagged messages. More on that later.

So, that's what's next - the primary headings.

And a final note:

I realize that some of you don't understand why I'm doing this. That's ok.

To clarify: I won't release R3 to the larger community of users until we have a really good way to communicate about. DocBase and DevBase alone are not enough. (See prior blogs and chats on it.)

To define "good way": that means N-level header structured, tagged, multi-thread messages with user rank levels (not karma) and user permissions... with access available directly from the R3 console (text mode), HTML mobile feed, R3 GUI, HTML pretty pages, RSS feed, email list feed, and backup feed. This is a full REBOL message syndication and aggregation method.

I regret not doing this years ago. Sorry.

And, no I'm not writing all that myself - just the primary feeds that I need. Things like the HTML pages, RSS, email will need the community to contribute those modules.

More details soon.



Brian Hawley
30-Dec-2008 14:16:46
This all sounds good so far - you are on the right track, IMO.

I think it would help if you discussed how this relates to DevBase (perhaps in a later status message). Much of what you are talking about as being RebDev features were already planned for DevBase itself. How will these tools integrate? I can see the value to a separate client for messaging, as that would let you simplify the UI...

Brian Hawley
30-Dec-2008 14:20:25
As a suggestion for headings, a top-level heading for the other REBOL development tools would helpful, like for RebDev itself. How deeply can you nest subheadings?
30-Dec-2008 15:16
Excellent feature set. Very exciting.
31-Dec-2008 16:10:15
I'm testing the alpha version now (some bugs to fix). The CLI interface is nice and quick to use. The client appears to be a little over 20 k of code. Not much else to say other than it's moving quickly forward.
2-Jan-2009 22:00:01
"full REBOL message syndication and aggregation method" - sounds great! I can't wait to help contribute...
2-Jan-2009 22:51:49
PS - Now if we also aggregate everything from AltME, the mailing list, your blogs, and, maybe everyone would be happy :)

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